My buddy Paul (who I box with) sent this along. It might answer our question…note the karate guys are bare fisted and kicking…
Boxer vs. Karate Part 2 The Video
Mar 1, 2010 | Boxing, Uncategorized
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Looks like they had a “no below the belt” rule. In a street fight it seems like the ability to attack the legs with kicks would be an advantage.
Sport fighting is not real fighting.
very very true…
yeah this is a fair fight = if they have rules its not a true test of either sport….
HardKarateStylist (“HKS”) to “TJS,” Other Commentors on “Boxer vs. Karate PART 2–The Video.”
At “Paul Brown’s Comment” displaying this video @ Part 1, I made some general criticisms about the performance of the fighters depicted in this video, largely positive for the boxers and negative for the karatas.
For argument sake, HKS says let’s first separate the ‘street fight’ scenario from the ‘sport / competition’ scenario, the latter which is relevant to the video. To “TJS” and other commentors, what could the karatas do different to win the fight; how could the karatas improve their competitive performance against these skilled boxers?
HKS also suggests that let’s try and look beyond the obvious facts, like the boxer’s have gloves and the karatas are bare fisted. As someone pointed out in one of the comments for Part 1, you might encounter someone who has protection or some other obstacle in a real fight–let’s focus on winning.
The question then becomes how would you work around that? “TJS” & others, let’s look at what karatas could use–the martial skill set offered by karate fighting, and so turn the situation around and come out on the winning end!
HKS–you’re absolutely right…fair is fair…and the video–though entertaining…isn’t fair.
HardKarteStylist (“HKS”) Reply to “TJS” re “Fight Isn’t Fair.”
HKS, along the lines of your critique that the video clip fight wasn’t fair, notice how the karatas are outclassed by having bigger, stronger, taller, boxer opponents? Though I am not a boxer, size and reach, I understand, are definite advantages in boxing matches where trading punches to the head and torso is typical.
Yet the question remains, how do we karatas defeat opponents of this type and fighting style? At my current karate school, nearly all the students adopt a boxing/ kickboxing style in free-sparring instead of the traditional karate techniques. Is this what we karatas should do; do here? HMMMMM?
sparring is sparring…does it approximate true fighting…maybe and maybe not.
HardKarateStylist (“HKS”) on Shogun Rua’s 1st Round Knockout Win Over Lyoto Machida @ UFC 113.
Shogun’s win confirms the superiority of boxing / kickboxing approach over traditional karate as demonstrated in the vidoe clip above. Of course, this is in the context of the sport of MMA. Nonetheless, the ‘Machida Era’ announced by UFC President Dana White, proved to be short-lived.
TJS / others, what is your take on the Rua vs. Machida rematch and outcome?
Man, this embarrassing…I strictly follow boxing–couldn’t pick those guys out of a line up…sorry!
Ok first of all I want to state that boxers fight with huge 12-18 ounce gloves on and still knock their opponents out. So wen u take them off a boxer is so fast and powerful no other fighting style can compare and a true boxer wouldn’t have to worry about kicks because they would be within their punching range. Also the stupid clenching would just let the boxer know exactly where the karate guys head is so he could throw one hook and kill him. I think I’ve stated my point well enough
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention the fact that I’ve taken karate and boxing let’s just say I’m still taking boxing the training is much harder along with much more punching power and speed. Karate teaches you to throw arm punches(very weak). Boxing teaches you to use your entire body to throw a very fast and devistating blow. Also in boxing matches boxers get knocked down and knocked out and have to get up and go again therefore boxers are much tougher to go from out to up fighting in 10 seconds
if the fight was a street fight with no rules except (no crotch blows) then the karate user would have probably won since the boxer’s usual weakness is his lower body so about three or four hard kicks to the side of the knees karate users also train there whole bodies but the lower body is an essential of karate
if the fight was a street fight with no rules except (no crotch blows) then the karate user would have probably won since the boxer’s usual weakness is his lower body so about three or four hard kicks to the side of the knees karate users also train there whole bodies but the lower body is an essential of karate because it is the basis of many karate moves
Kicking the legs would change things, but not much. Otherwise you’d see leg kicks finishing MMA fights. And you rarely do. They are a tool in the box, to weaken the legs. In fact the recent Evans-Davis fight saw the kicker’s shin laid open when it was checked by the defender’s knee. Not much of an advantage.
Having trained MMA, I’d rather fight a kickboxer or a TKD black belt than a seasoned boxer, any day of the week.
Also, if it was a street fight, they would have shot each other or bludgeoned each other to death with bar stools. Karate and boxing have always been and will always be sports. MMA is a SPORT. Even bare-knuckle Burmese boxing … is a sport. so let’s forget the “in a real street fight” stuff.
Seasoned…
Hmm…I guess the very good MMA guy would do better in the street situations than the boxer of equal skill.
Evaluating “equal skill” is a bit of a challenge…
Good stuff–I love the analysis of the “street fight.”
BTW–I’m not sanctioned in Burma.